There are many reasons why crowdsourced design sites like 99designs and crowdspring are gaining a good deal of buzz. The idea behind these sites is that you post a project (like website design, logo design or writing services), you set the fee and you provide the brief and in return designers & copywriters submit concepts at no charge to you in a bid to win your business. You select a winner, pay them your pre-determined price and all design work is transferred over to you. For small businesses especially, the pay-what-you-want cost and the large number of designs you can receive in return are very appealing. But there is a darker side that companies need to consider when weighing whether or not this avenue, versus hiring a professional the more conventional way, is better for you.
1. Strategy
Ask yourself this, if a client emailed your business and said they wanted to hold an event, but didn’t need to meet with you and instead sent you a written brief that was 2-3 paragraphs long – no opportunity for a face to face or telephone dialogue – how good do you think your solution would be? It would be a challenge to really know if you’ve hit the mark. As an expert in your field there’s value in challenging what the client may think is best for their business. There’s value in delving deeper into the needs of the client. There’s value in asking questions the client never thought of answering. This valuable two-way dialogue is missing from the exchange that happens on sites like 99design.
2. Industry / Market / Regional Expertise
Having a designer with industry, market or regional expertise or at least experience can be a huge asset for your business. It’s important to know that a good number of the people who submit designs to crowdsourced design sites may be outside of your geographic area. In some cases this can mean that cultural needs, nuances and necessities may be overlooked. Another thing to consider is that a very big part of brand design development should include auditing competitors, target market and the industry. This won’t be done for $99.
3. Liability
This is an area that greatly concerns me. Unlike hiring a professional designer, you don’t know the quality of the individuals you award your business to. Although there’s a money-back guarantee, the 3rd party sites still absolve themselves of liability if a design is deemed defective. This area is really murky and I’d recommend speaking with a lawyer about who is ultimately responsible if the designer you award with your business has ripped off another designer, or worse, an existing brand. If another company goes after you for trademark infringement, I can pretty much guarantee that a) the designer will not have money laying around to pay you for lawyers fees and b) finding them or going after them in a foreign country may prove difficult.
4. Quality
Having spent some time investigating these sites, I’ve seen very blatant acts of plagerism and artwork recycling. Does the image below look familiar? It was created as a concept for a start up brand but looks oddly reminiscent of this logo.
As for design recycling…It seems to be common practice for some designers to resubmit the same designs over and over again, regardless of the project. Look at a few active request for design projects and you’ll see the same logo designs, but different names. Unless you plan on being on these sites 24/7 to compare the concepts submitted for your projects to others, you’ll likely not be able to tell what has been recycled and what hasn’t.
Contrary to what you may think, the purpose of this story is not to smash crowdsourced design sites, it’s to provide an overview of potential pitfalls that every business, small or large, should be aware of.
So tell me, have you used one of these sites? What was your experience (good or bad)?
[on READY2SPARK] want a logo for . you may want to read this first – http://www.ready2spark.com/2010/07/want-… #eventprofs
@ready2spark Agree re ur views on sites like crowdspring; though I think once a client chooses a supplier they’ll BE in personal contact?!
@ronniewriter Ronnie, good point. There is an opp 4 fdbk (by email) http://99designs.com/help/howitworks – my point tho is that there’s value in f2f.
@ready2spark Now THAT’s why I’m a LIVE event evangelist!;) Nothing like f2f (although sometimes I do find telepathy w/artists via the web)
@ronniewriter Also consider that many designers submitting work may use English as a 2nd language.
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Want a logo for $99? Well, here are a few things to consider before using 99designs & crowdspring…. http://www.ready2spark.com/2010/07/want-…
@ready2spark Small correction – crowdSPRING doesn’t offer logos for $99. Our logo minimum is $200 in standard projects and $1000 in Pro.
@crowdSPRING Thanks! Will amend.
We used LogoTournament to design the Event Camp logo and I was very pleased. There is a lot of interaction with the designer and I found them to be responsive and unique. I was able to connect with the designer after to get additional versions of the files.
Many designers are in other parts of the world. They have less expensive cost of living, but still provide quality work and low prices. It's not perfect for everything, but I had a very positive experience.
Hi Lara and thanks for a great post!
You are absolutely correct when you talk about the value that a small business can get when they use a traditional designer or design firm. The problem is that many small businesses and startups a) can not afford a traditional designer or agency, and b) may not have geographical access to one.
crowdSPRING and sites like ours open up the market to tons of small businesses that would not otherwise be consumers of these services and at the same time make potential clients available to freelancers all over the world who would not otherwise have access to them. This (new) two way street actually increases size the pie and offers both buyers and creatives more options to work with.
You talk about expertise and quality and these are also not exclusive to the world of traditional providers. At crowdSPRING we conducted a survey of over 550 creatives working on the site and found that over 75% have college educations and 12% have graduate degrees. Over half of these are graduates of a college-level design program. In addition, over 60% of our community have more then five years of experience and 30% have over 10 years experience! These are professional designers in every sense of the word and can provide the same level of expertise as their counterparts who choose to work in a traditional model. Plus when you speak of regional and industry expertise, remember that we have 65,000 creatives who come from over 175 countries around the world. Talk about a wealth of “regional” prowess!
There are indeed some risks inherent in a “crowd” model, but these are not exclusive to our model; any designer can be tempted to plagiarize and any designer can mis-represent themselves and their work.This is a risk that all buyers of creative services take no matter how they choose to source their projects and it is critical that they be aware of this when they make their choice on how and where to source their services. At crowdSPRING, we take this issue very seriously and provide free contracts which protect both parties, robust IP violations reporting processes, and a reputation system which helps both buyer and creative make good judgments about whom they choose to work with.
Thanks again and all the best,
Mike Samson
co-Founder
crowdSPRING
http://www.crowdspring.com/
Thanks so much for weighing in, Jessica! I'm curious to know, from your perspective, how businesses could determine whether a crowdsourced design site would be a good decision for their project or not.
The best clients and the best designers on 99designs.com preserve “the design process” – While the brief is what gets things started – there is plenty of 2way conversation between designer and client. Feedback and good communication is key to getting a good result – same as in a traditional one-on-one designer relationship.
Small correction to help you understand pricing in our various models:
99designs has a design contest marketplace at http://99designs.com where the client launches open design projects to a community of over 70,000 active designers. The client sets the price – Logos start at $150 but can go up to the $1,000's . The average offer for a logo is $350. In the contest model – the designs are completely custom, created from scratch for each project.
99designs also has a Ready-made Logo Store at http://99designs.com/logo-design/store – This is where customers can browse through a catalog of thousands of logos designed by the best designers in our community and have them customized with their business name starting at just $99. If available – exclusive rights for the logos are available for $298. The Logo Store offering is aimed at the smallest of businesses who just need to get a sharp, professional design – fast.
As far as liability – plagiarism has long plagued the design arts and to imply that this is a new phenomenon born out of crowdsourced design is ridiculous. If anything… because the design process happens in public it is extremely transparent. The design community is very self policing – so designers let the clients know when someone has submitted something questionable.
Anyway – it's an interesting discussion. In the end – the Internet has exploded the need for professional design. There is a plenty of room for all kinds of design models and it should be noted that 50% of the projects at 99designs lead to additional follow-on work for the designer. This means that clients often use the process to identify a design talent that they'd like to work again with one-on-one in the future.
Cheers,
Jason
99designs.com
Budget is a huge factor. This really levels the playing field for small businesses that could never compete with larger organizations with high-priced brands. Timing is also a factor. These sites provide very quick turnaround. Culture – is your organization comfortable doing business on the web or are you more traditional when hiring vendors. Distinction- how unique must your brand be? If you are a medical practice it might be less important than a cutting-edge tech company. These are just a few that I can think of.
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Great discussion. Thank you.
Personally, I am quite on the fence regarding the use of a
crowdsourcing site for a logo design. It is still a touchy issue for most
designers who said that crowdsourcing is a no-no for obtaining a logo design. I
have tried crowdsourcing before and I know the risks involved but it comes
within the territory. But there are other no-frills logo design websites online
such as http://www.logobee.com, http://www.logodesignstation.com, logoyes.com, etc. which are
actually great in getting a professional logo design at a fraction of the price
and minus the risks of crowdsourcing (plagiarism is one of them). Seeing that
there are no consultation services, the price is significantly lower than that
of conventional design firms. For instance, I have tried
http://www.logodesignstation.com and the experience was indeed a positive one.
I managed to get my business logo design at an affordable price and the
turnaround time was great as well. Highly recommended. Although crowdsourcing
for logo designs could be a bane for some, many find it to be a viable
alternative to get a fast logo on the cheap. It all depends on the individual
actually.